A new car with warranty for under 10k

You can buy a practical, new car with room for four people and luggage, with manufacturer’s warranty and all modern safety equipment. There is an attractive range of options for under €10000 (/ or under £9k – £10k). Every cent or penny extra, is spent on luxuries, mainly adds to the manufacturer’s profit. Car dealers will try to sell you a larger model with better profit margins, that’s why you will have to show some persistence to make them offer you a 10k car.

A €10,000 Hyundai i10 (1.6 m narrow) versus a €70,000 Volvo XC90 SUV (2.14 m wide)
A practical and reasonably comfortable sub-compact car versus a Veblen good

Light, sub-compact cars with small engines (under 1l) have the smallest live-cycle ecological footprint, better than any expensive plug-in hybrid green-wash. These sub-compacts are not only lighter on the environment, but due to their small engines and low fuel consumption pay less tax. Due to their modern safety equipment they are also cheaper to insure than many used cars, making them particularly attractive to young drivers. Most models are very reliable and surprisingly cheap to own and run and if – against expectations – something goes wrong, the car is covered by the manufacturer’s warranty.

In the 1960 Fiat Cinquecentos were the size of a bicicletta
In the 1960’s Fiat Cinquecentos were the size of a bicicletta

17 good cars for under €10k / £10k

With a tight budget come trade-offs. The 17 models span from the 3.55 meters short sphere-shape Fiat 500, to the half a meter longer Dacia Sandero, and from the solidly feeling Hyundai i10 / Kia Picanto and VAG triplets to the somewhat flimsy Mitsubishi Space Star. Most of these 17 car models are very good and reliable cars. Some, like the Suzuki, Mitsubishi and Ford Ka+ were designed for consumers in emerging economies. Others, like the Smart ForTwo and the retro Fiat 500 sell you style over substance. But all seventeen have their unique features and character and each of them is worth a look:

  • Citroën C1 – most reliable (three)
  • Dacia Sandero – the biggest
  • Fiat 500 – the cutest
  • Fiat Panda – practical
  • Ford Ka+ – outdated
  • Hyundai i10 – most grown-up
  • Kia Picanto II – balanced
  • Mitsubishi SpaceStar II – very economical
  • Peugeot 108 – most reliable three
  • Renault Twingo III – rear engine (two)
  • Seat Mii – over-engineered (three)
  • Skoda Citigo – over-engineered (three)
  • Smart ForFour II – rear engine (two)
  • Suzuki Celerio – underrated world car
  • Toyota Aygo – most reliable (three)
  • Vauxhall Viva / Opel Karl – lost in translation
  • VW up! – over-engineered (three)
European style sub-compact cars starting from €10000, €15000, €30000 and on deep into Veblen goods
European style sub-compact cars starting from €10000 (l), €15000, €30000 (r)

Hyundai i10 (Kia Picanto II) [*2013, Turkey, European CU]

Dimensions: L3.665 × W1.660 × H1.500 metres (the new Kia Picanto is using a slightly longer base)

Boot space: 252 l – 1046 l

Three cylinder petrol engine with 49 kW / 67 hp. All i10 come with four doors.

The modern Hyundai i10 with the classic Citroën 2CV
A current Hyundai i10 (l) with a classic Citroën 2CV (r)

Hyundai is a relative newcomer on the reliability league table, but its vehicles are proving well built. The i10 is scoring 84.8% and the updated Kia Picanto  model was rated the highest by owners, gaining a reliability score of 89.6%. 

Hyundai i10 II / Kia Picanto are the counter-thesis to the VW Up: very reasonable, cheap, well equipped, secure. Even the fixed height driver seat suits most drivers from short to tall. The Hyundai i10 II / Kia Picanto II are the one small car model, in which one sits well and can also endure longer motorway journeys. The Hyundai i10’s quality, solidity and comfort comes with additional weight, resulting in a lower top speed and higher fuel consumption than most models on this list, though not as bad as the Ford Ka+ or Dacia Logan.

A first generation  Citroën C1 with the larger Kia Picanto II
A first generation Citroën C1 (l) with the larger Kia Picanto II (r)

The second generation Kia Picanto was designed in Frankfurt by Peter Schreier, who was responsible for Audi designs like the first generation Audi TT. The father of the i10, former BMW designer Thomas Bürkle, has given the car as much BMW 3 feeling as possible on a fraction of the budget, space and weight. Among these 17 models, the i10 is the mid-size, but feels the most grown-up. 

Former BMW designer Thomas Bürkle, has given the Hyundai i10 as much BMW 3 feeling as possible
Designer Thomas Bürkle has given the i10 (r) as much BMW 3 (l) feeling as possible

The Hyundai i10 will receive a facelift soon, and be put on a longer base, which is already being used for the Picanto in Europe and for the i10 in India (where it has been one of the best selling car models) and at Hyundai’s NAFTA factory in Monterrey, Mexico. Chances are, that Hyundai may offer some discounts on the current model…

The triplets: Peugeot 108 / Toyota Aygo / Citroën C1 

Second generation, with French chic and Toyota reliability [*2014, Czech Republic, EU].

The two door Citroën C1 (l) first generation with an i10 2017 (r)

Peugeot 108

Dimensions: L3.470 × W1.620 × H1.450 metres

Boot space: 196 l

The prettiest and most expensive of the three.

Toyota Aygo

A four door Toyota Aygo II

Dimensions: L3.455 × W1.615 × H1.460 metres

Boot space: 168 l

The Toyota Aygo has gained a perfect 100% reliability score, with no owners reporting faults on their cars. The other two models from the same factory, which share the same technology and parts are just as good.

Citroën C1 

Dimensions: L3.466 × W1.615 × H1.460 metres

Boot space: 196 l

Citroën C1 II

The small car of 3.45 meters in length is available as a three- or five-door and on request also with extras such as a breezy folding roof or a modern reversing camera, which does not quite fit in a cheap car. And if you do not like the Citroën logo on the bow, get the 51 kW / 69 hp city car – much the same as a Peugeot 108 or Toyota Aygo – but then you’ll have to pay slightly more.

The second generation Peugeot 108 II / Citroën C1 II / Toyota Aygo II are perhaps the most reliable car series in the world. They are very economical but smaller.

The "world car concept" Suzuki Celerio is rather underrated and rare in Europe.
The Suzuki Celerio

Suzuki Celerio [*2014, Thailand]

Dimensions: L3.600 × W1.600 × H1.540 metres

Boot space: 254 l

Suzuki is the market leader by units sold in India and Japan and has a very good reliability record. The Celerio drives with a 50 kW / 68 hp three-cylinder engine and can reach up to 155 km/h. This tall sub-compact is a valid compromise between the sturdy Hyundai i10 and the bigger, flimsier Mitsubishi Space Star. 

This “world car concept” was developed for consumers in emerging economies like India and Thailand, where the units sold in Europe are being assembled. The Thai Suzuki Celerio is not covered by the EU-Japan EPA and duties apply. Suzuki may therefore be less generous with discounts.

A four door VW up!

The VAG triplets: VW up! / Skoda Citigo / Seat Mii [*2011, Slovakia, EU]

Dimensions: About L3.55 × W1.641 × H1.48 metres

A two door VW up! GT

The VAG triplets are a popular car with students from families, who can afford to buy more engineering but less car. It is a popular graduation gift. A fully electric version with a range of 270 km (165 miles) under WLTP standard, is to be mass produced from autumn 2019 and going to be aggressively priced (cross-subsidised) at around €20k, to help Volkswagen AG reach its fleet fuel consumption goals and avoid multi-billion Euro penalties. Combustion engine versions of these triplets are to disappear with the next generation of fuel standards in 2021, as Volkswagen AG considers it uneconomical to deliver the required reduction in fuel consumption in sub-€20k combustion engine vehicles. With these triplets soon to be superseded petrol version, look for special offers.

A two door VW up! (l) with a two door Seat Mii (r), which has a larger rear passenger window.
A two door VW up! (l) vs a two door Seat Mii (r)

E.g. the Skoda Citigo has a reliability rating of 88.5%.

A Smart4Two (l) seen with a Hyundai i10 five seater

Twins: Renault Twingo III (and Smart ForFour II) [*2014, Slovenia, EU]

Dimensions: L3.595 × W1.646 × H1.554 metres

Boot space: 188 l (plus some space at the front)

After selling an unexpectedly succesful 400,000 units of the The Opel & Vauxhall Agila I / Suzuki Wagon R, GM classed this as a minority pursuit and discontinued this practical box design.
A modern Renault Twingo III with a rather boxy Vauxhall Agila I / Suzuki Wagon R

The 3.60 meter long, five-door four-seater stands out from the crowd, not only because of its cute design, but because of its rear engines with 51 kW / 70 hp. Rear engine designs produces sturdier cars (think of the indestructible original VW Beetle) and an unrivalled small turning circle. The Twingo III and Smart ForFour II are the ideal urban runabout, but their boot space is encroached by the rear engine. The engine in the back of the cabin becomes rather vocal at motorway speeds.

Two cars from Daimler AG: A Mercedes e-class estate next to a sub-compact Smart ForFour
Two cars from Daimler AG: A Mercedes e-class (l) next to a Smart ForFour (r)

The Smart versions tend to be dearer, but if you can get your hands on a well equipped pre-reg Smart ForFour at under £9000, you’ll have a bargain.

Mitsubishi Space Star [*2012, Thailand]

Dimensions: L3.795 × W1.665 × H1.500 metres

Boot space: 235 l – 912 l

The current Mitsubishi SpaceStar (l) versus the original and popular Renault Twingo

Compared to the other listed economy cars, this is a bargain, at under 8,000 Euro in a lean spec. Nearer to 10,000 Euro you will get an audio system, USB sockets, electric mirrors and central locking. The sparkling three-cylinder with 52 kW / 71 hp allows a top speed of 172 km/h while zipping little fuel. It is all well in town, but the driving position didn’t fit me and driving at speed (above 80 km/h or 50 miles/h) is no joy. Matt Jones of Top Gear magazine rated the car 2 out of 10, commenting that “it’s truly, profoundly terrible. The steering is slow and vague. It rolls extensively. Grip levels are non-existent. Every lump and ruffle in the road is transmitted directly to your backside. It’s inexcusably noisy. Hell, there’s so much slack in the steering that you can’t tell which way the wheels are pointing…“. 

Nevertheless, if a cheap car for a small family in Bangkok or Manila is needed, the frugal and relatively spacious Mitsubishi would certainly be an option.

Opel Karl / Vauxhall Viva [*2014, Changwon, South Korea]

The Opel Karl / Vauxhall Karl, developed by GM's subsidiary in South Korea on a heavier GM base.

Dimensions: L3.675 × W1.604 × H1.476 metres

Boot space: 215 l

Three-cylinder, 6.3l / 100km

The Opel Karl / Vauxhall Viva seems less clever and spacious than the previous small Opel / Vauxhall Agila, which was developed in cooperation with other GM brands Suzuki and Daewoo and manufactured in Hungary.The 3.68 meters long and five doors sub-compact is tighter than the Asian competitors and offers only one engine: a three-cylinder 1 litre petrol engine and 55 kW / 75 hp. While certainly a good car, it’s price-performance seems inferior. This Daewoo Korean platform model will be discontinued in Europe at the end of 2019, for being too heavy and coming from former owners GM, reason why I personally would not buy the current Karl, even at a sell-off discount.

Fiat 500 [*2007, Poland, EU]

Dimensions: L3.546 × W1.627 × H1.488 metres

A four door VW up! compared to the smaller Fiat 500
A four door VW up! with a Fiat 500 (r)

The Fiat Cinquecento is a three-door hatchback based on the renown, old Ford Ka platform. While it is by far the oldest of the seventeen under €10k models, it is certainly still the cutest and produces smiles when looking at it or driving it. Unfortunately, the Fiats are also the only cars on this list with some reliability issues.

The cute Fiat Cinquecento vs the more grown-up Hyundai i10
The cute Fiat 500 (l) vs the more grown-up i10 (r)

Fiat Panda [*2011 Italy, EU]

Dimensions: L3.653 × W1.643 × H1.605 metres

The third generation of the Fiat Panda is based on the more up-to-date Fiat Mini platform. For what it lacks in the cute-factor when compared to the Fiat 500 it makes up for in practicality and space. 

A Toyota Aygo with a Fiat Panda – both second generation models

Score 70.2% – both the Panda and 500X lingered close to the bottom of their categories. Pandas suffered more engine and suspension troubles, while electrical gremlins bugged the 500X.”

A 4.057 metre long Dacia Sandero with a 3.556 metre short Hyundai i10
A Dacia Sandero (l) with the smaller Hyundai i10 (r)

Dacia Sandero [*2013, Romania, EU]

Dimensions: L4.057 × W1.733 × H1.523 metres

Since 2007 Renault’s Romanian subsidiary Dacia offers spacious cars for less €/£. Dacias are designed for and assembled in places like Iran and Egypt. We have refrained, but if space is paramount, you may want to look at the second generation Dacia Sandero. 

A first generation Dacia Sandero - much space for little money
A second generation Dacia Sandero

The second generation Sandero was featured alongside the Ford Fiesta and VW Up! in series 21 of the BBC’s Top Gear as part of a three cylinder cars challenge, which ended with Clarkson (Up!) and May (Sandero) having to drive into the abandoned city of Chernobyl, with Hammond’s Fiesta having already run out of fuel. The Sandero was the only car to make it back out and complete all the challenges. May pointed out the large price difference between the Fiesta and the Dacia Sandero, stating that at £17,500 vs £7,500 he could afford to lose his car, buy another Sandero – and still be better off than Hammond.

Ford Ka+ (*2016, India)

Dimensions: L3.93 x W1.7 x H1.52 metres

While the first generation Ford Ka was designed as a compact city car for Europeans, the 2016 Ford Ka+ – based on the larger, old Ford Fiesta platform – is aiming at families in emerging economies. But size isn’t everything. The Ford Ka+ is heavier and thirstier than most of the other sixteen models and lacks brake assistance and grip. Ford doesn’t seem too keen to cater for the 10k price tag.

The new Ford Ka+ made in India versus the old Citroen C1 built in the Czech RepublicA new car with warranty for under 10k - seventeen good options and their advantages
The new Ford Ka+ (l) versus the old Citroën C1

Hints

For comfort and to minimise depreciation you should aim for some equipment, which you may not obtain at list price – go for a pre-registered car instead! Equipment should look for include things like four passenger doors, stereo radio with audio-jack, USB sockets, at least six air-bags, ABS, EPS, remote central locking, height adjustable driver seat, Euro 6 or better, metallic paint, avoiding exotic colours

All of these practical, small cars feature an expandable boot.

With car models which share a platform and are put together by the same workers in the same factory, like eg the VW up! / Skoda Citigo / Seat Mii or the Peugeot 108 II / Citroën C1 II / Toyota Aygo II you should go for the best and most convenient pre-registered option you can find – assuming you plan to keep the car for a couple of years. However, despite negligible differences, the models may vary in depreciation. So if you are considering selling your sub-compact within the first three years, you may find that eg the Toyota Aygo tends to retain more value than the similar Citroën C1. Equally a used VW up! will sell for more than a similar Seat Mii.

Last but not least, help the environment and minimise your driving! Active travel by bike or by public transport is a healthy alternative for most journeys. Note that car tires should be changed within eight years, regardless of their wear or mileage. If your mileage is low, try to get all-season tires in the package from your car dealer.

Warranty 

Note that the manufacturer’s warranty starts counting down from the day of the registration. E.g. a Hyundai with 5 years warranty registered half a year ago will already have run down 10% of its warranty period.

A 1970s Opel Kadett with the current Hyundai i10
A 1970s Opel Kadett (l) with the current Hyundai i10 (r)

Used car value

A frugal entry level car retains its value better than any luxury car, simply because for people who need a four-wheel motor there is no cheaper alternative. With a pre-registered car you will already have an important discount over the list price – resulting in a lower depreciation.

A classic 1970s Renault 4 (l) with the current Hyundai i10 (r)

What will happen after electrification

VW have already announced that they won’t manage to achieve the next generation fuel consumption requirements with petrol engine cars at a price below €20k – see VW up! above. Therefore in Europe, this very popular low price car category will be superseded by €20k electric cars. These upcoming EVs may be cheaper to run, but be out of reach for many drivers. If Euro-6 cars will continue to be allowed to circulate in urban areas and if petrol won’t be taxed out of reach, any of these €10k models could potentially become highly sought after as a used car in a few years time (there are two “if’s” ;-). 

Conclusions.-

Ten thousand is all it takes to buy a new car. Spending more to carry two and occasionally four passengers takes you quickly into the field of Veblen goods!

Offers for the upholstery of two Thonet chairs from upholsterers and furniture stores in and around Oldenburg.

Difficulties arise from the large pattern, the new fabric and the sewn through seams in the seat and backrest.

For price comparison, the quotes for upholstery in Oldenburg range from €120 to €345 per chair. The cheapest was late, but otherwise fine.IITM_Thonet_Chair_for_upholstery_160624

 

Norbert Winkler Raumausstattungsmeister

Hauptstraße 57, 26122 Oldenburg
Tel +4944113792     Fax +4944136 16 00 65
Mob +49173614 32 50
info@raumausstatter-oldenburg.de

“Unseen, just providing a flat rate, my husband would rate this as about 5 hours work / chair, because you can no longer use the fabric of the chair as a pattern.

About €40,  Material / chair, that adds up to 250 € / chair.

To give further details, it would be good if my husband could see the chairs.

Whether the material is sufficient, that is of course depends on the allowance as the pattern is very large-.

Sincerely

Andrea Retzlaff  Winkler”

 

Astrik Raumausstattung (Interiors), owner Nadine Ovsak

Raiffeisenstr. 27, 26122 Oldenburg
Tel +494411816452;     Mob +4917664968723     info@astrik.de

 

 

 

Polsterei Hofmann

Mühlenstraße 12, 26160 Bad Zwischenahn
Tel. +4944033314     Mob +491724353415     sigurdhofmann@web.de

We have viewed the images. If we upholster and refurbish the chairs, this would cost € 180 / chair with its own fabric.

For further questions we are happy to serve you.

Sincerely

Polserei S. Hofmann

 

Stöhr and Janssen

Nadorster Str. 303, 26125 Oldenburg
Tel + 4414991531     stoeja@gmx.de

Including the stitch-through seam and upholstery, two chairs, a total of €690 (€345 /chair)

 

Raumaustattung Warnken

Andrè Warnken

Feldlinie 18, 26160 Bad Zwischenahn
Tel +494403949669
info@warnken-raumausstattung.de

I can currently only give an estimate.
Cushioning material per seat about €50,  € (depending on state of the inner parts). Wages ca 150-200 € / chair.  All net excl. VAT.
Greetings from Bad Zwischenahn, Andre Warnken

 

Upholstery Silvia Spille

Syker Straße 88a, 27751 Delmenhorst
Tel +49422118228     Mob +491636187892     info@polsterei-spille.de

Promised to give an offer, which I never received.

 

Deco works Interior , Karin Meyer

Pferdemarkt 7 26121 Oldenburg
Tel +494419833118     info@decowerk.de

Asked me to bring the chairs before they would make an offer.

Markus Kall

rating ***
Price Value *****

Auf dem Hohenborn 11, 27777 Ganderkesee, Elmeloh
Tel +49422143388     Email n / a

€ 120 /chair

 

Request

For two Thonet chairs I have found left over fabric. I would like to refurbish these chairs (picture attached). What would the upholstering, refurbishing with stitch through seams in the seat and backrest cost?

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Result

Markus Kall’s offer was not just 30 € cheaper per seat, Mr. Kall was the only upholsterer listed here who offered to pick up the chairs and to bring them once finished. Even though he has not embroidered the seam, I am satisfied with the quality of his work and the new foam in the seat. The price-performance ratio of Mr Kall’s work is very good.

Disadvantages

Mr. Kall does not use e-mail, making communication difficult. Through a death in his family, the work was delayed week by week and unfortunately,  the delays were not always announced.

 

Conclusion

Despite the delay, I would appoint Mr Kall again.

 

Here in the foreground the two chairs, recently upholstered by Markus Kall.